RebootD
Apr 11, 10:23 PM
Good points. In any other profession, say a carpenter, you buy the tools before you make anything but you also have to have talent as a baseline.
Pretty sure people supporting illegally obtaining them wouldn't support said carpenter from walking into a Home Depot and walking out with $3k in power tools because "Hey, he is just getting started!".
No, I'm saying this completely fake but probable guy isn't doing well enough with his full time job (which is as a graphic artist), so he's doing a little freelance work to get to a point where he can afford his various monthly payments. It's a break even thing, and there's not much left over, if any... theoretically.
Sort of, but his comment about how anyone can learn these apps was incorrect. I was saying you need to have some talent to start with, and once you do, use of the apps CAN increase your design skills - once you start to realize the things you can do with the tools at hand.
Pretty sure people supporting illegally obtaining them wouldn't support said carpenter from walking into a Home Depot and walking out with $3k in power tools because "Hey, he is just getting started!".
No, I'm saying this completely fake but probable guy isn't doing well enough with his full time job (which is as a graphic artist), so he's doing a little freelance work to get to a point where he can afford his various monthly payments. It's a break even thing, and there's not much left over, if any... theoretically.
Sort of, but his comment about how anyone can learn these apps was incorrect. I was saying you need to have some talent to start with, and once you do, use of the apps CAN increase your design skills - once you start to realize the things you can do with the tools at hand.
AvSRoCkCO1067
Sep 4, 11:23 AM
yeh, your right, its not like apple are microsoft or anything. full screen ipods shuld be easy to make in a year
It did take them a full year to develop a bluetooth mouse so...:rolleyes: :p
It did take them a full year to develop a bluetooth mouse so...:rolleyes: :p
Alezan
Mar 12, 05:43 AM
Alleeeeez, Chrichri et moi on devient fou ici!
tsmithgolf2000
Aug 24, 12:03 PM
Powerbook G4's and Ibooks. Just announced on CNBC.
gkarris
May 5, 10:59 AM
I don't know if they "legally" are required to, but even when your two year contract is up they don't change it to one of their "new plans"
They will allow you to be grandfathered in as long as you wish, and as long as you continue to pay your monthly bill. Even when you extend a new 2 year contract and buy a new phone, you are agreeing to keep the service for 2 years, but they will allow you to stay on your original plan. That's how we are allowed to have unlimited data and iPhone 4's.
Who says that they have to honor Grandfathering of Plans?
They will allow you to be grandfathered in as long as you wish, and as long as you continue to pay your monthly bill. Even when you extend a new 2 year contract and buy a new phone, you are agreeing to keep the service for 2 years, but they will allow you to stay on your original plan. That's how we are allowed to have unlimited data and iPhone 4's.
Who says that they have to honor Grandfathering of Plans?
conradzoo
Sep 13, 03:07 PM
I would really like to see what the difference in size between the new nanos and old nanos is. if it really is 52% smaller, which doesn't look it from the picture, I will definitely consider picking one up. has anyone seen any side by side pictures of the new and old nano?
The package is 52% smaller.
The new Nano just a fraction thinner.
The package is 52% smaller.
The new Nano just a fraction thinner.
kerpow
Sep 12, 05:36 AM
Interesting article on Vista. I expect MS will copy Apple and build the next OS around a Linux or FreeBSD kernel.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1868642,00.html
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1868642,00.html
iphone3gs16gb
Mar 18, 02:34 PM
Do you guys think it's time for an flash memory based iPod classic?
mBox
Apr 16, 11:26 AM
Urr no. Sony Vegas had had this sort of pricing for years and is used widely professionally because that was what it was designed for. Do you actually think that being a professional is being about owning a certain piece of software?So true, I know folks still running the original Media 100, GV Edius, MC Meridiens and even first run Premiere.
Folks you really only need one or two video layers to get a job done :)
From my line of work I rarely go higher than 2 since most of my work is done pre NLE (motion design and 3D).
Folks you really only need one or two video layers to get a job done :)
From my line of work I rarely go higher than 2 since most of my work is done pre NLE (motion design and 3D).
Benjy91
Mar 25, 01:07 PM
After 10 years of "Feels Snappier" How snappy can Safari get? How long before Safari actually snaps in half when you move it?
Satoneko
Oct 12, 04:48 PM
Just an ordinary Mac Setup:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/soyburger/sets/72157594228629049/
WOW!
Curious to know what is your idea of an extra-ordinary Mac Setup?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/soyburger/sets/72157594228629049/
WOW!
Curious to know what is your idea of an extra-ordinary Mac Setup?
Blue Velvet
Aug 29, 02:11 PM
And you and people like you represent how much of the population?
What's that got to do with your absurd and paper-thin point? That Macs weren't for work? I represent no-one except myself and never claimed to...
Besides, since when did a majority choice signify anything of value? More people drink Coke instead of Champagne. More drive Fords than BMWs. More like 50 Cent than Mozart...
When billion-dollar publishing and media concerns depend on their Macs, in my view that trumps anybody at home playing Solitaire on their Windows boxes.
What's that got to do with your absurd and paper-thin point? That Macs weren't for work? I represent no-one except myself and never claimed to...
Besides, since when did a majority choice signify anything of value? More people drink Coke instead of Champagne. More drive Fords than BMWs. More like 50 Cent than Mozart...
When billion-dollar publishing and media concerns depend on their Macs, in my view that trumps anybody at home playing Solitaire on their Windows boxes.
runplaysleeprun
Sep 12, 01:42 PM
iTunes 2 had the blue note--v1 had three notes of varying colors. iTunes icon timeline:
http://www.techmanifesto.com/archives/2005/09/08/the-itunes-icon-timeline/
Monster energy claw tattoo
A close-up of Ashlee Simpson#39;s
Minge Vagina Tattoo
mens tribal tattoos celtic
Everyone here is sick
Looking for
http://www.techmanifesto.com/archives/2005/09/08/the-itunes-icon-timeline/
partyBoy
Oct 16, 06:36 PM
Oh, I'm terribly sorry. I answered your question in a rush, so I did not read carefully.
It's bought in The Netherlands, where I live. The store next door had these so I picked one up when I drove by. So, yeah.:rolleyes:
wow...the store next door...never heard of that store:rolleyes:
It's bought in The Netherlands, where I live. The store next door had these so I picked one up when I drove by. So, yeah.:rolleyes:
wow...the store next door...never heard of that store:rolleyes:
fitinferno
Sep 4, 12:10 PM
after they took such a strong step away from the metal inclosures.. would they really switch back a year later?
Yeah, but they have to do something about the rampant scratching and the ease with which one can break it. Fully metal one seems like a good way to do that.
Yeah, but they have to do something about the rampant scratching and the ease with which one can break it. Fully metal one seems like a good way to do that.
kretzy
Aug 24, 12:34 PM
Bugger! Mine doesn't qualify. Right model, wrong serial number. :mad: :D
Retrograffica
Jan 11, 02:15 PM
Ok so maybe there is a logo...
Bets on Steve saying something like "but that's just the tip of the iceberg, BOOM"
Bets on Steve saying something like "but that's just the tip of the iceberg, BOOM"
KnightWRX
Apr 12, 06:42 AM
Unfortunately not. This extremely tired and overworked theoretical man cannot ask his boss, because the freelance work conflicts with the corporate work. He also just uses photoshop. He's looked for cheaper tools - really wants to love pixelmator, but it just falls too short, and doesn't offer the compatibility he needs to work with his colleagues. He'd love to buy an older version of the suite - CS3 would be fine - if he could find it at a reasonable price, which he can't.
This guy - like I imagine many other "pirates" - isn't a bad guy. He WANTS to buy it, but it's tough to swallow that kind of an asking price. One day soon, when he can afford to, he'll pay the price. He just can't right now.
Look, anyone can make up stories to try to prove a point. You won't change my mind and I still think your over emotional made-up scenario is pure bunk to try to tug at the strings of the heart. My empathy meter is barely reaching up to "couldn't care less" levels. The people who "pirate" Creative Suite are talentless hacks who probably pirate it for the sake of saying they have it (hoarders, what most software pirates are), not to use it in any meaningful way.
I stick by my gross over-generalization which makes anyone saying they will pirate it not matter at all in the grand scheme of things and should not be something to get worked up about like the initial post I was responding to was doing. Just ignore the people who think Adobe's prices are outrageous, they are what they are because they sell the best tools and anyone who can take those tools to make something worthwhile doesn't give a damn about the price.
This guy - like I imagine many other "pirates" - isn't a bad guy. He WANTS to buy it, but it's tough to swallow that kind of an asking price. One day soon, when he can afford to, he'll pay the price. He just can't right now.
Look, anyone can make up stories to try to prove a point. You won't change my mind and I still think your over emotional made-up scenario is pure bunk to try to tug at the strings of the heart. My empathy meter is barely reaching up to "couldn't care less" levels. The people who "pirate" Creative Suite are talentless hacks who probably pirate it for the sake of saying they have it (hoarders, what most software pirates are), not to use it in any meaningful way.
I stick by my gross over-generalization which makes anyone saying they will pirate it not matter at all in the grand scheme of things and should not be something to get worked up about like the initial post I was responding to was doing. Just ignore the people who think Adobe's prices are outrageous, they are what they are because they sell the best tools and anyone who can take those tools to make something worthwhile doesn't give a damn about the price.
EasyB
Oct 31, 06:17 PM
This firmware update seems like a good thing, but I'm just afraid of the computer shutting down even though it supposedly ignores temp readings. I tried running the hardware diagnostic, and guess what. The MacBook still shut down- multiple times while trying to run the test. I was unable to get the diagnostic to run at all. Should I just call Apple up and start demanding answers and taking no prisoners? Or should I be more sly about it? I'm just starting to get pissed off at what I thought was a great computer company.
Just do it, have some faith. It is the best update I ever did. My mac does not shut down anymore and it works better. And the firmware update only takes a few seconds, i too was worried about it shutting down during the firmware update, but do you think apple would put out a update like that. Could you imagine the mess if half of the macbooks died during the update and would not boot anymore? They would not take that chance.
So just do it, it will work for you, and maybe restore some faith in apple.
-B
Just do it, have some faith. It is the best update I ever did. My mac does not shut down anymore and it works better. And the firmware update only takes a few seconds, i too was worried about it shutting down during the firmware update, but do you think apple would put out a update like that. Could you imagine the mess if half of the macbooks died during the update and would not boot anymore? They would not take that chance.
So just do it, it will work for you, and maybe restore some faith in apple.
-B
skunk
Apr 4, 06:21 PM
The idea that religion is the only thing that keeps kids from growing up into terrible people is a bit outdatedThe idea that religion improves people is a bit outdated. The religious are every bit as capable of vileness as the irreligious.
timuster
Mar 14, 01:08 PM
makes sense that they upgrade the 15 and 17 and not the 13, the 13 inch is pretty good as it is, they just need to upgrade the hard drives to 250 and 320gb and the 15 and 17 inch should reach 1TB
WHAT !?!? Are you kidding me ?!? Do you really consider increasing the hard disk capacity as an official "upgrade" ?
Core 2 Duo is an outdated technology !! Accept this fact already !!
WHAT !?!? Are you kidding me ?!? Do you really consider increasing the hard disk capacity as an official "upgrade" ?
Core 2 Duo is an outdated technology !! Accept this fact already !!
russomd
Apr 17, 08:38 AM
Woot got a 32 gb black! at tru. Thank you macrumors
Pilgrim1099
Apr 11, 07:28 PM
;) I agree that it's crazy to pay full price. Everyone has to know someone in college or who can at least get an educational discount. I mean of several hundred bucks, make a friend. Otherwise, yes, simply 5-10 minutes on the net can yield you the full CS Suite and all the major plug ins. I think the total available in that time is about $3,500.
$3,500?
No.
Make that close to $1,500. Don't exaggerate. Premium packages cost a bit more but Standards are a bit cheaper. You always have the option of buying just ONE Adobe application if you don't need the rest of the stuff. Or buy them one at a time. Or buy Standard for Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign (for the print/publishing industry), for instance.
$3,500?
No.
Make that close to $1,500. Don't exaggerate. Premium packages cost a bit more but Standards are a bit cheaper. You always have the option of buying just ONE Adobe application if you don't need the rest of the stuff. Or buy them one at a time. Or buy Standard for Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign (for the print/publishing industry), for instance.
RebootD
Apr 11, 03:06 PM
Do those in the anti-piracy camp have major issues with someone who pirates Adobe products, but doesn't "profit" from them?....i.e doesn't make even enough money to cover the costs of the original products or even makes zero dollars?
Yes. It's stealing, download a trial version and if you like it buy it. If not go get a cheaper solution elsewhere.
I give it one more year, and Adobe's products will be entirely replaceable by App store Apps that will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Developers will be making their money, the apps will be cheap enough that piracy won't be as big of an issue, and everyone will be happy (except Adobe....and those heavily invested into their software model, and business).
People have been saying this for a decade and instead the competition has been eaten or don't exist anymore. There is more than Adobe's apps but the entire collaboration between native files within the suite.
Could it happen? Sure. But they will have be big enough to fight a buyout buy Adobe and/or come out with an entire suite (page layout, photo and web etc) to directly compete as a 'package' to really make in the professional realm of agencies etc.
Yes. It's stealing, download a trial version and if you like it buy it. If not go get a cheaper solution elsewhere.
I give it one more year, and Adobe's products will be entirely replaceable by App store Apps that will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Developers will be making their money, the apps will be cheap enough that piracy won't be as big of an issue, and everyone will be happy (except Adobe....and those heavily invested into their software model, and business).
People have been saying this for a decade and instead the competition has been eaten or don't exist anymore. There is more than Adobe's apps but the entire collaboration between native files within the suite.
Could it happen? Sure. But they will have be big enough to fight a buyout buy Adobe and/or come out with an entire suite (page layout, photo and web etc) to directly compete as a 'package' to really make in the professional realm of agencies etc.